Wow many thanks for your input, I guess we all have to wait then. Come on Prof Copeland, don't keep us too long, I guess he's busy with the phi though. I was amazed to see that instrument, it kills the PanKat for looks, and the range is to die for. 3 octaves is it? As for sound quality though nothing will ever beat a traditional pan. I always find that the sampled sounds on those things are always lacking in quality... just like a lower end of the market keyboard. But for versatility they win, I would love to try one, guess I have to wait for that too!